Exploring the intersection of perfectionism, procrastination, and performance

Exploring the intersection of perfectionism, procrastination, and performance

Perfectionism isn’t a personality quirk. It’s a pattern of reinforced behaviors that can seep into every aspect of your life.

You may set certain standards for yourself, certain rules about how things are supposed to be or how you are supposed to behave; while you may meet those standards for a while, they eventually – and inevitably – fall short. Then, you feel crushed. Then, you criticize yourself. And then, to drown out the negativity, you set new goals, standards, and expectations for yourself. The cycle of ineffective perfectionistic actions repeats and maintains itself.

In this podcast episode, I chat with Monica Basco, Ph.D. We discuss specific topics related to perfectionism in detail:

(a) A large part of the conversation clarifies how having high standards and being perfectionistic can both be beneficial and detrimental, and finding the balance between the two is crucial.

(b) We also discussed the interplay between perfectionistic behaviors and procrastination as two sides of the same coin. 

(c) Monica and I highlighted the fact that setting high-goals is productive when one can tolerate failure. However, learning to pursue what matters and learning to let things go – as the right thing to do – is also important.

(d) Finally, we discussed ideas for you to conduct a functional analysis, or in other words, we discussed key questions for you to understand your drive to engage in perfectionistic actions (e.g., what is my mind trying to protect me from right now?)

Key Takeaways

  • Discussing perfectionism and high achieving behaviors
  • Understanding the impact of high goals
  • The role of confidence in goal setting
  • The intersection of perfectionism and procrastination

About Monica Basco, Ph.D.

Monica Basco, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist and former Associate Director for Science Policy, Planning, and Analysis at the Office of Research on Women’s Health at the National Institutes of Health. She served as Assistant Director for Neuroscience, Mental Health, and Broadening Participation at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy from 2014 to 2015.

Dr. Basco is an internationally recognized expert in cognitive-behavioral therapy and a founding fellow of the Academy of Cognitive and Behavioral Therapies. She was formerly on the faculty of the University of Texas at Arlington, where she was awarded the University of Texas Regents’ Outstanding Teaching Award.

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Show notes with time-stamps

01:00 Understanding Fear and Perfectionism
01:31 Dealing with Perfectionism and High Achieving Behaviors
02:35 Cognitive Behavior Therapy and Perfectionism
04:14 Setting Goals and Dealing with Failure
05:12 Understanding Overachievement and Expectations
08:37 Dealing with Rejection and Pursuing Goals
20:43 Understanding the Intersection of Perfectionism and Procrastination

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Final Thoughts on Perfectionism, Procrastination, and Performance

There is nothing wrong with striving to do things right and perfectly – that’s natural when you deeply care about things that matter to you. And, as you have heard me say before, it’s extremely important that you learn to harness the power of perfectionistic actions without losing yourself.

How to perform your best when it matters most

How to perform your best when it matters most

Ever catch yourself engaging in incessant mind chatter in a high-stakes situation? The kind that fills your head with self-doubt, comparisons, and anticipations of failure?

You’re not alone. We all do it. But what if there was a way to overcome these self-limiting beliefs and embrace life’s challenges with confidence?

I had a chance to talk to Dr. Mitchell Greene, Ph.D. regarding performance anxiety, managing self-doubt, and comparison thoughts among athletes or overthinkers.

If you have been following the podcast, you know by now that by making room for your thoughts, rather than struggling against them, you can redirect your focus towards the present moment and towards what matters.

In today’s episode, we discussed other micro-skills to manage mental chatter with curiosity and courage.

Key Takeaways

  • The pitfalls of positive thinking
  • Managing mind chatter
  • How to shift your attention from hypothetical worries to the present moment
  • Redirecting your attention from “what if” to “what is”
  • How to manage lapses in confidence
  • An effective mindset to perform challenging tasks
  • Exploring the concept of positive thinking
  • Understanding mind chatter and its impact
  • Strategies for managing mind chatter
  • Applying mind chatter management in real life scenarios

About Dr. Mitchell Greene, Ph.D.

Dr. Mitchell Greene is a nationally recognized licensed clinical and sport psychologist, whose success over the past 15-plus years is his ability to tailor personalized solutions to his client’s problems. Dr. Greene works primarily with athletes pursuing high performance goals, or coaches and athletic departments looking to educate their student-athletes on mental health and performance enhancement strategies.

In 2023, Dr. Greene published Courage over Confidence: Managing Mind Chatter and Winning the Mental Game, a book based on his years of working with high-performing athletes who struggle with managing doubts and negative thinking. His book has spent time as a top 5 “Youth Sport” and “Sport Psychology” Book on Amazon. Athletes and teams have purchased Dr. Greene’s book as an off-season guide to help them train their mind for competition, as well as an in-season resource to improve their mental game.

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Willingness

Willingness

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H ave you ever done a willingness workout?

What comes to your mind when reading the word “willingness?”

Some of my clients have heard words like “open up, sit with, make room for it… ” and so on.

The challenge is that without a context, all those words don’t have any meaning unless you make a decision, a choice, a commitment with yourself to experience “x and all the stuff” ​that comes when facing uncomfortable situations.

So, just to clarify when referring to willingness, I’m not referring to a feeling or something abstract, but to a choice that you can make towards a particular uncomfortable experience you have been struggling with in the name of your values.

Blindly playing-it-safe can be exhausting and draining.

You don’t have to love, approve of, or even like all the content your mind comes up with. I’m asking you to learn to make room for these thoughts as they are and look at the thoughts as stuff your mind comes up with rather than as stuff that you always have to listen to.

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  • What would make what you are going through here honorable and purposeful?
  • You don’t have to do this perfectly—just get from point A to point B.
  • What do you want to stand for here?
  • Is there anything standing in the way of you and what you want to be about here?

What is your mind avoiding?

One of the clever things our mind does is push away, replace, or stop our thinking when we are having uncomfortable thoughts, images or memories. This process is called cognitive avoidance or thought avoidance. Here is how cognitive avoidance plays out in some hypothetical scenarios:

  • You had a terrible fight with your friends, and memories from this fight pop up every day. Naturally, you try to replace these upsetting memories with positive ones, such as the last day trip you took with your friend.
  • When thinking about your partner traveling to South Africa, you have a thought about her dying in a car accident. The next thing you know, you’re telling yourself to stop thinking that horrible thought.

    Here is our invitation for a way to move forward: What about learning to have all those thoughts—the sweet, old, and ugly ones—without pushing, forcing, or pushing them down?

     

    How to shift from cognitive avoidance to  

 

 

Do you want to get unstuck from wrestling with worries, fears, anxieties, obsessions, and ineffective playing-it-safe actions?

Learn research-based skills and actionable steps to make better decisions, adjust to uncertain situations, make bold moves, and do more of what matters to you.

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Breaking free from worry loops

Breaking free from worry loops

Picture this scenario: you encounter an ambiguous and uncertain situation, and then, of course, you quickly try to solve it. You anticipate all types of scenarios and try to prepare for each one of them, without realizing you are worrying and consumed with anxiety.

Worry is primarily a thought-based process, and that’s what makes it tricky. 

We’ll worry from time to time; that’s unavoidable. But playing-it-safe by worrying all the time takes a hefty toll on your well-being, happiness, and relationships.

In this episode, I interview Dr. Chad Lejeune, Ph.D.

We discussed the subtleties of worrying, what keeps worry cycles, and the importance of developing a new relationship with your mind. In the second part of the interview, I shared with Chad an unexpected situation I encountered when traveling, and we used that event as an opportunity to discuss micro-skills to manage uncertainty, what-if thoughts, and reassurance-seeking and information-seeking behaviors.

Key Takeaways

  • How to develop a new relationship with thinking
  • How to distinguish effective problem-solving from ineffective one
  • Understanding fear and anxiety
  • Defining worry and its impact
  • The role of worry thoughts
  • Distinguishing between productive and nonproductive worry
  • The consequences of worry
  • Addressing beliefs about worry
  • Changing our relationship with our thoughts
  • Dealing with unexpected situations
  • Embracing uncertainty and ambiguity
  • The anxious brain and uncertainty
  • Productive thoughts and problem-solving
  • The power of narratives and storytelling
  • The distinction between problem solving and creating narratives
  • The danger of excessive information seeking
  • The power of accepting uncertainty
  • The importance of learning from the past

About Chad Lejeune, Ph.D.

Dr. Chad LeJeune is a professor of psychology at the University of San Francisco. He has more than 30 years experience treating people with anxiety problems. He is a founding fellow of the Academy of Cognitive Therapy, and was among the first clinicians to receive training in acceptance and commitment therapy. He lives and works in San Francisco.

Dr. LeJeune offers compassionate, focused, research-supported treatment for individuals and couples using both Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. He specializes in the treatment of anxiety-related problems.

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Show notes with time stamps

00:27 Understanding Fear and Anxiety
01:26 Defining Worry and Its Impact
02:27 Distinguishing Between Worry and Problem Solving
05:50 The Consequences of Worry
06:43 Addressing Beliefs About Worry
11:27 Changing Our Relationship with Our Thoughts
17:41 Practical Example: Dealing with Unexpected Situations
22:59 The Power of Productive Thoughts
23:56 The Mind’s Narratives and Their Impact
25:46 The Distinction Between Problem Solving and Worrying
28:15 The Power of Acceptance and Living in the Present
28:20 The Pitfalls of Excessive Information Seeking
29:12 The Role of Google in Reassurance Seeking
32:29 The Importance of Embracing Uncertainty
34:53 Reflections on the Past and the Future

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What’s the mindset of a skillful striver?

What’s the mindset of a skillful striver?

It was a true pleasure to discover the work and passion of Sonya Looney, a professional athlete, mountain bike champion, podcast host, health and mental performance coach. Her enthusiasm, laughter, and insights are contagious!

There are many golden nuggets in this conversation: how to skillfully manage comparison thoughts, rumination, self-doubt, shame, values-based strategies, and much more.

Key Takeaways

  • The mindset of an athlete
  • The upsides and downsides of over-preparing and over-working
  • How to skillfully manage unpredictability
  • Acceptance of emotions
  • How to deal with a strong attachment to goals or winning
  • Defusion: thought – labeling
  • Goodhart’s law
  • How to manage physical fatigue using acceptance & defusion skills
  • How to go back to your values when your mind gets noisy
  • How to manage comparison thoughts
  • ABC of resilience

About Sonya Looney

Sonya Looney is a professional athlete, podcast host, health and mental performance coach. As a professional mountain biker, she’s raced in over 25 countries, been World Champion, 4x USA National Champion, and amassed 20+ career wins in endurance mountain biking.

Her work encompasses the intersection of performance, health, and well-being. Her dynamic experience racing around the world, paired with a graduate education in Electrical/Biomedical Engineering, her Health Coaching Certification, and extended personal studies in Neuroscience, Positive Psychology, and Plant-Based Nutrition, have been a powerful way to connect and understand herself and others.

Sonya is passionate about the integration of high performance and well-being through psychology, contemplative practices, and sport.

In her work, she explores topics like grit, mindset, self-worth, purpose, success, happiness, and healthy striving.

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How to act on your values when feeling anxious

How to act on your values when feeling anxious

Key Takeaways

This is part 2 of my conversation with Dr. Matthew McKay, Ph.D. In part 1, we discussed the foundations of how Dr. McKay thinks of process-based therapy. Today, we discuss, in particular, different mechanisms of actions:

  • What is attentional training
  • How to look at your values when getting stressed
  • How to practice acceptance 
  • How to handle uncertainty
  • How reassurance seeking shows up in our day-to-day life

About Matthew

Dr. Matthew McKay, Ph.D., cofounder of New Harbinger Publications, joins us to talk about evidence-based resources and the ever-changing landscape of therapy. Matthew is a professor at the Wright Institute in Berkeley, CA. He has authored and co-authored numerous books, including The Relaxation and Stress Reduction Workbook, The Dialectical Behavior Therapy Skills Workbook, Self-Esteem, and Couple Skills, which have sold more than four million copies combined. He received his Ph.D. in clinical psychology from the California School of Professional Psychology and specializes in the cognitive behavioral treatment of anxiety and depression.

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Show notes with time-stamps

01:23 Diving Deep with Dr. Matthew McKay: Understanding Process-Based Therapy
02:19 Exploring Emotional Awareness and Cognitive Flexibility
07:56 Attention Training: A Future Wave in Mental Health
11:20 Practical Exercises for Enhancing Attention Flexibility
15:04 Navigating Uncertainty with Effective Strategies
18:54 The Impact of Safety Behaviors on Handling Uncertainty
 

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